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three ([personal profile] threeplusfire) wrote2002-11-21 02:24 pm

in which I ramble about guns



I've been thinking about this site for a few days now. They lay out their arguements well, and I tend to agree. I'd like to say something, but I don't know what yet. The site contains a large number of by images both hilarious, chilling and thought provoking.

[identity profile] neflhim.livejournal.com 2002-11-21 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Image

Looks like Jared got sick of Subway.

Seriously, though, I tend to agree with the basic premise of the 2nd Amendment. But a civilian has no need for a military rifle.

[identity profile] silentjack.livejournal.com 2002-11-21 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. I mean, just -- wow.

I don't think I've ever seen such a well-reasoned piece of propaganda in my life.

I'm still digesting a lot of what I read and making sense out of some of the exorbitantly pathos-ridden images (even though on one of the pages there are paragraphs dedicated to the evil "conditioning" of seeing murder, violent crime through guns, etc, in the media and how that skews the public's opinion of firearms...). When I get done raging, I'll post something nice and calm and logical. It might take a while.

[identity profile] sammka.livejournal.com 2002-11-21 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. I think you might be the only person on my friends list right now who's also pro-gun-ownership, or at least sympathetic to the idea.

My grandparents were pretty prominent, peaceful people who didn't own guns early in their lives. My grandfather's father, however, did. When the Nazis invaded Prague, guns were immediately outlawed, and any civilian found in possession of a gun faced the death penalty. My grandmother's brother joined the underground anti-nazi resistance, and all those guns of my great-grandfather's went to the Czech resistance. My grandfather almost got caught with several assault arms in the trunk of his car (he rear-ended an SS official who, thankfully, didn't bother to search the car). My grandmother's brother eventually died in the resistance, and I've always seen him as my greatest family hero. My mother and grandparents, due to their dispositions, aren't terribly happy with the idea of owning guns, but my aunt followed in her uncle's footsteps and owns a sawed-off shotgun to protect herself from burglars (she lives in the absolute middle of nowhere- no police could help her in the event of a break-in).

I personally can't shoot guns, and don't own any, but I sort of want to. It's a hard decision for me. I worry that I couldn't trust myself with it, or that my children would play with it. And then there's the issue of making gun-control laws that at least make it somewhat harder for people with actual criminal backgrounds to buy guns. It's a complicated issue. But I certainly at least want the option, considering that I'm a (mostly) psychologically balanced, law-abiding person. *sigh*

[identity profile] fauxfille.livejournal.com 2002-11-21 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I dislike guns. All guns. I think if you own a gun you get the itchy trigger syndrome and you want to use it. I don't believe that shit about defending yourself with a gun. What will protect you? A gun or a heavy object? A knife? Can we all carry knives if we can carry guns? And who said I can trust my neighbor to defend me or anyone else? Maybe I'm in a mood tonight, but I tend to think most people act selfishly and machiavellian.

I'd take a heavy object over a gun, any day. And who needs a gun?