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three ([personal profile] threeplusfire) wrote2004-03-21 01:19 pm

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I shouldn't read the internet so soon after waking. It only pisses me off.

Fuck that vegan moral superiority bullshit. There's something delightfully evil about knowing that in order to sustain large crops of grains you end up with a lot of dead field mice. Oh, I am so going to use that line on the next self righteous vegan who tries to make me feel guilty for eating meat.

Thankfully my friends who are vegetarian/vegan/whatever who are not militant about their choices and don't feel the need to run around trying to guilt others into adopting their behaviour. I will kindly eat their share of the world's meat so they won't have to. Everyone wins!

[identity profile] sammka.livejournal.com 2004-03-21 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not an issue of land, it's an issue of feed. The land that livestock live on usually doesn't feed them alone. People grow feed corn, harvest it in the same mouse-killing way as normal corn is harvested, and then feed it to the cows- after all, if the land isn't very green, the cows usually aren't going to be able to subsist entirely off of it. So where the cows actually live isn't an issue, the issue is that if corn-growing somehow kills animals, cow-growing will kill animals too, because you need to grow corn in order to feed those cows.

[identity profile] tsarina.livejournal.com 2004-03-21 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Well then we come to a point where the arguments are all moot. No matter what you're eating, something's got to give.

[identity profile] sammka.livejournal.com 2004-03-21 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, basically.

I guess it all comes down to a certain hierarchy in terms of which things required the most amount of killing to eat, with factory-farmed and grain-fed cattle at the top (since you have to machine-harvest a lot of plants to raise them), vegetable matter somewhere near the middle, and entirely pasture-fed cattle somewhere near the bottom. The only problem with exclusively pasture-fed cattle is that you can't really grow too many of them, since they need to be raised in a warm region and each one needs a lot of land.