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three ([personal profile] threeplusfire) wrote2004-05-16 07:34 pm

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Well, once again the Simpsons was a weird, weird ride. Principal Skinner loudly proclaimed his status as a veteran of America's only losing war, and Homer added "To date!" Alan and I just looked at each other. I don't think we could really say anything about it.

I think I'll disturb myself and watch The Matrix.. I've been writing all weekend and I am no closer to a coherent paragraph.

Gödel, Neo, Bach?

[identity profile] geoectomy.livejournal.com 2004-05-16 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)

There's something her ethat segues with my current reading... But I suspect it's gonna take a little bit to come together for me.

Something to do with self-identity coming from recursive introspection. Take that and compare it ot the idea of programs writing programs, and Neo's existence and consciousness both inside and outside of the matrix...

The first movie is very much about Neo's awakening--even if he's not the one yet. And you theory doesn't seem too far out there to me. In fact, it seems pretty much dead on.

But I think that Neo's participation in Hofstadter's "Strange Loops" (TV-tunnel-vision) from destroying an agent of the matrix inside the matrix to destroying Sentinels outside the matrix... it touches on a similarity.

Gödel's postulation that any system of axioms must contain inherently unprovable (cannot be proven as either truth or falsehood) statements also bears some relation.

Sometime, it'll gel for me. I'll let you know when I get there.