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I read an article about anti-Americanism in Canadian politics. Now I expect Europe to hate us, I expect large parts of Asia to hate us. But somehow I naively assumed our benevolent and nonviolent neighbor to the north would have a gentler attitude. But then 40% of Canadian teenagers desribe America as "evil" and that number jumps up another 20% in French speaking areas.

I am so tired of my country being hated.

I hate UPS with the burning passion of a thousand suns. For the love of god don't send anything to me UPS. USe the postal service or FedEx, anything but UPS. No matter what schedule I'm working they refuse to come at a time when I would actually be home to sign for the package, and so I have to deal with unpleasant mess of 183/290 interchange to wait in line in the horrible UPS center.

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Date: 2004-07-07 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onezen.livejournal.com
UPS truly sucks. They do seem to go out of their way to NOT deliver a package....1,000 reasons, "You weren't home.", "We're afraid of your dog." ..ad infinatum, ad nauseum...

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Date: 2004-07-07 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amp23.livejournal.com
Canadians resent being treated like America's little brother, and don't like being told how they should run their government.

Canada gets the same treatment that Mexico and South America get when it comes to Economics. Americans know best and Canadians should kick back and let America do what it wants, even when what they're asking for will hurt Canadian industry. They're under pressure from American pharmaceutical and insurance companies to stop providing healthcare to citizens for free, they're under pressure from american lumber companies to open up their forests to logging and to raise their lumber prices, they're under pressure politically to be more like the States which is something no Canadian wants.

In short Canadians want what every sovereign country wants, and thats self-determination. Unfortunately self-determination and the monroe doctrine are very difficult to reconcile with each other.

Canadians are also sick of Americans making fun of them at every turn, then coming north to take advantage of the good exchange rate (the media is merciless about this, even while taking shows north to save production costs). also Americans up here have the bad habit of acting like they do everywhere else outside american borders - that is they don't give a damn if they're obnoxious and rude because they're on vacation and act like the world was put here for their disposal.

Canada's media also plays a part. On our cable we have channels for the native people, indian and pakistani channels, BBC, CBC, european and asian news. and even an entire channel for Muslims broadcasting daily prayers and shows on interpreting the Qur'an. This gives Canadians a much more worldly perspective when it comes to news. Being someone who sought out foreign news in the states I can say firsthand that gettting off a diet of Fox/Viacom and getting more sources from around the world you get a much better perspective for what America is doing overseas and how people feel about those policies.

Really Canadians aren't that hard to get along with if you're respectful. I've never had someone treat me bad for being an american, but maybe that's cause I can sit and talk about what a fuckup Bush is with them. (a lot of them don't understand how this man came to power and are far too secular to be comfortable with the religious right's revolution)

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Date: 2004-07-07 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a311renegade.livejournal.com
I wish we were not so hated too. Americans are not all so bad and evil. It's all because of that doofus in the White House. Grrrr.

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Date: 2004-07-07 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calledmara.livejournal.com
My Canadian neighbors in Michigan love the US! Every 4th of July we have a huge party together and shoot off hundreds of dollars worth of fireworks and eat hundreds of punds of meat. It is grand. Then the kids play "War" (hide n go seek + capture the flag + Ultimate Fighting=War). This year a Canadian couple even got married on our lawn on 4th of July. It is diplomacy that the UN would be proud of.

Fireworks+Beer=World Peace

Date: 2004-07-07 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meallanmouse.livejournal.com
Might I suggest saying "All Canadians hate the US" is something of a generalization? Just like people who say "they hate the US" are indulging in a generalization themselves, for that matter?

I've always worked on an individual basis myself, and kept it to people. Just because I dislike your government (frankly, the policies they espouse these days scare me witless and make me want to stay very far away at the best of times) and loathe what they're doing does not mean I hate your country.

Government & Country. Those are two different things, imho.

Just my two cents, Canadian.

Date: 2004-07-07 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoectomy.livejournal.com

I think hate is such a strong word here. I don't hate America; I don't hate people for being American. I lived in Ohio long enough, I guess. Hate suggests a sort of malice, of actively ill-will. I don't think Canada has that kind of relationship with the US.

Of course, I'm talking individual-to-individual here. I suspect the landscape changes when we're talking national relationships. I still think hate is way too strong a word. We're far too tied to each other, Canada and the US. We can't afford to hate the US.

Date: 2004-07-07 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoectomy.livejournal.com

Hmmm, now that I've successfully recovered my equipment from my secret base in the US, I really should get my plans back on track... It may only be a matter of time before Canada annexes the US!

Date: 2004-07-07 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feu-de-fripe.livejournal.com
america is always making fun of canada i would be surprised to hear that canadians liked us for doing that.

we are the bullies of the world it doesn't help when we have a cowboy president who stole the presidency and won't listen to what his constituents want unless they can make him or his friends a profit

Date: 2004-07-07 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n-o-m-i-c.livejournal.com
. But then 40% of Canadian teenagers desribe America as "evil" and that number jumps up another 20% in French speaking areas.

Do you have the URL of the article or the site this was from? I'd like to read it.
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