consent

Jun. 17th, 2010 07:20 pm
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How awful that I found myself in front of a mirror today wondering just how abnormal I must be.

I am an adult and at least somewhat more in charge of things and capable of refusing consent. The children experimented on by the Cornell doctor aren't able to give or refuse their consent. Ostensibly one would hope their parents would be looking out for them, but there's probably a lot of fear and ignorance and horrible stuff there as well. Who knows what lead these people into this office in the first place.

When I was a teenager I was commanded by various adults in my life, including my parents, to take antidepressants. During this, I did not receive any counseling/therapy or any medical supervision about how they affected me. No one ever asked me if this is what I wanted or what I needed, and no one was listening to anything about the psychopath tormenting me. I am quite sure the medications I was forced to take were a significant factor in my suicide attempt a few months later. (Ultimate kicker - I overdosed on a combination of antidepressants and pain medication.) Even after my suicide attempt, my parents would insist on me taking other medications. I soon exercised the only control I could at the time and refused to take any more pills.

Being made to take antidepressants, even ones that make you want to die, is not really the same as being surgically altered. But I don't think I've ever been able to completely trust my parents since that happened. I wonder if the children involved in this Cornell business will grow up with similar feelings.

Date: 2010-06-18 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alainn-sorcha.livejournal.com
Well, there are endocrine disorders that cause "abnormally" large clitorises (?), so I can understand a parent being worried about the stigma attached to that, discomfort, whatever. The part I have trouble with regarding any corrective surgery is the issue of consent. When you start talking about fucked up studies like this, or having to lie spread eagle for all manner of doctors to parade past and look at your "deformity," it just gets 10 times worse.

And it made me think about the converse situation. So, say I got pregnant on that medication I take and decided to risk it and wound up with a boy with feminized genitals. No doctor in their right mind would be recommending I put my child through a penis enlargement at 6. Nor, frankly, would I. (Nor, frankly, can I even begin to imagine what that child actually would go through in a lock room.)

This situation is highlighting some pretty serious gender disparities. It's startling.

Date: 2010-06-18 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delchi.livejournal.com
There have been times when I have looked at myself and recited a movie quote that has always haunted me :

"When a person is insane...as you clearly are...do you know that you're insane? Maybe you're just sitting around, reading Guns & Ammo, masturbating ...do you just stop and go: "wow, it is amazing how fucking crazy I really am?"

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