oh people, please

[threeplusfire]

From a review of 300:

"over all a great movie, if you havent seen it buy it, its worth it for action fans who love the mid-evil type era."

I had to pause for a moment to allow my brain to recover before I continued working.

Comments

[silentjack.livejournal.com]

Ah can haz liturasy?

And a refresher course in World History (let alone discussions about violence, orientalism, etc)?

And basic grammar?

I'd be lying if I said none of the papers by freshmen I've graded didn't look this bad, though... They learn really quickly not to write like this. Red-hot pokers, tasers, leeches, etc. I'm now rambling about occasionally-effective torture as a means to correct grammar: a sure sign I'm sleep-deprived.

[kevinblanchard.livejournal.com]

I'm ok with the grammar issues and sentence structure. Now the fact he though Medieval times were mid-evil, and you know MANY hundreds of years difference in time periods are a little worse to me. Though I'm lean more towards being a history nazi then a grammar nazi,lol

[kevinblanchard.livejournal.com]

I have a friend who teaches high school English. She said over the past few years that she has had multiple students who basically ask her why she "makea" them learn the "old out dated way of using spelling and grammar". She says most of the papers she gets look like Facebook and Myspace messages. Then when she corrects it they freak out. Most of them look at her like she is teaching them Latin. She says kids ask her when they are ever going to use this stuff. Since proper grammar and spelling has been all but abandoned in modern day society these kids basically look at English teachers as teaching them "English history" instead of English. She says her biggest frustration is the kids who ask "when am I ever going to use it" who feel that the grammar and spelling rules she teachers are "not relevant to the modern usage of the English language". She had to have a parent teacher conference because the student kept telling her mom that the teacher was teaching them incorrect information and "didn't know what she was talking about". One of the things that the student had been marked down on was using the phrase "I can haz..." and then when her teacher told her it wasn't proper English she said the student looked at her like the teacher was an idiot. The irony of course is my friend said the student and some friends were bad mouthing her later saying "old b*tch probably doesn't even know how to use the internet. What an idiot". *shakes head*. I can see it now. "No child left behind, sponsored by LOL Cats".

Though I do have to admit, as an engineer I sometimes resort to the "mob rule" of grammar and spelling instead of what is technically correct,lol I go with which ever is most widely accepted and will be understood, even if it's the wrong way. But I've always been a function over form kind of guy. :)

[silentjack.livejournal.com]

For the past three years, I've been teaching what have ostensibly been English comp classes, despite their titles as music courses (and my more-extensive training in the latter). I admit that not everyone who goes through the hallowed (and increasingly hollowed) walls of a university will ultimately need to spout off Chicago-style footnotes or write for a scholarly audience, but the concept of improving written grammar and teaching people (when it should have been just a refresher) the finer points of the English language all became anathema to many students. I shouldn't have had to tell college folks about high-school (and earlier!) errors, and there were occasional fits of horror and immense patience from my end: for instance, when a student asked what a "source for a paper" was; when another student asked why it mattered if they confused "there/their/they're,"; and on. My biggest problem was spending so much time trying to erase awful writing habits and teaching basic things -- like structure and syntax! -- that I had to sacrifice (repeatedly) course content. And, thanks in large part to NCLB/ESEA2, I have seen the writing and academic quality of students, just over these past three years, plummet. I felt I was going to be lucky last semester if I had one term paper that didn't have blatant grammatical or functional errors: and, lo and behold, I had only one paper (out of 50) that was devoid of all of the most egregious culprits known to grammar-maven-dom.

Course, I also had to throw in history lessons as well with each class, which, while fitting since they were music history courses, was really, really bothersome. This past semester, especially, made me want to weep for the future of American scholarship: while I would like to believe it was out of shyness, no one could bother to tell me in what year we landed on the moon, which president was assassinated in the 1960s, what the Cold War was, how television changed mass communication, what happened in the mid 19th Century across Europe, where China is on a map, the capitol of France, etc.

[ekatarina.livejournal.com]

I read something awhile ago about concerns that arose when telgram shorthand developed. Some people feared it would infiltrate English.

That didn't last. But then again, people weren't using it everyday.

Sigh.

Ekatarina, who owns a large dictionary and used it twice today

[dine.livejournal.com]

I'd have thought 300 was set more in the early-evil era, myself.

it's really depressing to read something like that, and know that not only was the writer sincere in hir ignorance, but there are many many people who wouldn't see anything at all wrong with the statement

[sykii.livejournal.com]

That sums up 300 better than a smarter person ever could. Wow. Brilliant!

[tsarina.livejournal.com]

HAHAHAH
I have hiccups now.

[bodlon.livejournal.com]

*blink*

HALP.

[tsarina.livejournal.com]

What does Jack think about the mid-evil era? Or is he more of a late-evil kind of guy?

[bodlon.livejournal.com]

Actually, I think he's more into the early-evil period. Better tailoring, and the music wasn't so derivative.

[alainn-sorcha.livejournal.com]

...

Oh, lord.

[coyotegoth.livejournal.com]

Suh-weet.

[geoectomy.livejournal.com]

For dramatic tension, the full-evil eras are usually pretty evocative. I mean, the no-evil eras don't really have a lot of action going on, did they?

Or wait, have we had one of those yet?