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three ([personal profile] threeplusfire) wrote2003-09-16 02:24 pm

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I've always wondered why we are encouraged to celebrate Mexico's independence day, but not the Texas independence day. During my years at the university I remember the annual party sponsored by the YTC (Young Texas Conservatives) as no one else would do it. It often earned the wrath of Mexican American student groups, who railed about the racism, the suffering caused by the Texans who fought against the Mexican government. As if their quest for independence was less pure than the quest by the Mexicans against the Spanish government. I just never understood the business and frankly it irritates me. No movement has ever been pure, except perhaps for Joan of Arc. I think we should acknowledge the mistakes and faults in our histories, but move on and celebrate the idealist goals, try to carry that spirit on and improve. Is that too much to ask? Crikey.

There are dice and mellowcreme pumpkins all over the floor. Cleaning drives me crazy. I put Suicide Kings on to keep me company. Last night I started reading the second book in Cornwell's Arthur epic, Enemy of God. Alan's busy with Sharpe's Rifles and every now and then he stops to read something aloud about rum, or sargents or other interesting bit.

[identity profile] amp23.livejournal.com 2003-09-16 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
i think in order to celebrate independence you have to be independent.

unlike Texas, Mexico is still a sovereign country (although Texas should be one too). but since the south lost the war, Texas was taken by military occupation and folded into the Union when the Republic was engineered into bankruptcy (the union stayed afloat by printing money, the south didn't have that luxury)

if the Republic of Texas provisional government is ever successful at getting the occupation nullified by US courts (about as likely as spontaneous world peace) i bet the new "independence day" would be whatever day the judge rules Texas was taken illegally.
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[personal profile] lawnrrd 2003-09-16 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I am told that one main reason the Texans wanted independence from Mexico was that Mexico was trying to abolish slavery, and the Texans objected. I am, of course, open to correction on this point, but, if true, I think it's a good reason not to celebrate Texas independence day.

Then again, I'm just a bleeding-heart. ;-)

[identity profile] rawumber.livejournal.com 2003-09-16 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
--is amused.

Did I mention one of my latest obsessions is Sharpe?

[identity profile] neflhim.livejournal.com 2003-09-16 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, we don't seem to celebrate Jean D'Arc either. Dunno why, seems she would be much more worthy than Bastille day, where we celebrate the French storming the infamous prison and liberating like two people. Given the times, they were probably executed later for not being grateful enough, or something.