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Still in the planning stages of an entry on why I don't like to associate with the poly crowd because so many people have this nasty, self righteous attitude about their preferences. I don't like the "I'm so much more enlightened than you because I fuck lots of people" vibe that I find all too often. That's so much crap. Just admit that you like to sleep around and be done with it instead of pretending it makes you more capable of love than a person who only has one partner. Sheesh.

Work was kooky today. It dragged on and on and on... I heard a truly horrifying sexual abuse case today. It was just such a sick, weird way to mess with a kid. Ugh and more ugh. This guy needs to go to prison.

My grandparents are in town this weekend. Yay visits.

Oh my lord Dracula 2000 is on TV! Stress relief in the form of an appallingly bad movie. But Omar Epps has pointy teeth! Bwahahahah.

Date: 2005-05-14 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alainn-sorcha.livejournal.com
Mmmmmm, Gerard Butler.

Date: 2005-05-14 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsarina.livejournal.com
Now that is happiness, hahaha.

Date: 2005-05-14 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladypeculiar.livejournal.com
Still in the planning stages of an entry on why I don't like to associate with the poly crowd because so many people have this nasty, self righteous attitude about their preferences. I don't like the "I'm so much more enlightened than you because I fuck lots of people" vibe that I find all too often. That's so much crap. Just admit that you like to sleep around and be done with it instead of pretending it makes you more capable of love than a person who only has one partner. Sheesh.

I'm a little torn here. On the one hand, I absolutely agree with you. There are many poly "groups" and "scenes" that are assholes and self righteous about it. But no more, I think, than any group that has chosen a specific trait about themselves with which to represent themselves as a community. Hell, go to any community about a television program and you'll find people self-righteously defending their right to watch the "Kojak" remake . . .

But I feel your words towards non-monogomous people were unecessarily harsh. No, a person is not more enlightened than another person because they choose to have more than one partner. I personally don't identify as poly because I don't feel it accurately describes my lifestyle, but I'm not far off. I live my life in the way that best suits my heart and my sexual desires. I am honest and forthright with my partners, and do not keep secrets from them about my other lovers. I could argue about whether this behavior was "chosen" or if I was "born with it" but I don't because I don't feel the need to say the same about my bisexuality either. And while my desires in particular are more fluid than some, I know that I don't fit into most monogomous relationships. And I don't think it's just because I "like to sleep around." If you feel otherwise you may say so.

Whether it's a family structure for some, a romantic structure for others, I fail to see why people taking pride in a succesful relationship should be cause for scorn. And no, it doesn't make people more capable of love, but occasionally it's a relationship structure that allows people to live an honest and fulfilling life.

While it may not have been your intention to put down the lifestyle directly, I felt uncomfortable reading it. If someone's an asshole, call them an asshole. But let it end there, ya know?

Date: 2005-05-14 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsarina.livejournal.com
I'm sorry if I have offended you by speaking in generalities here. I perhaps should have held off on commenting until I had the entire entry planned and written.

I don't have a problem with people being happy with their choices. What irritates me about a significant number of people that I've met who identify themselves as poly is the profession that their wide and expressive sexual life grants them some sort of mystical superiority to people who do not have the same habits. I'm heartily sick of the attitude that I am somehow limited, closeted, unenlightened, whatever because I don't follow that road.

Date: 2005-05-15 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladypeculiar.livejournal.com
I can understand that, and I known the kind of jerks you're talking about. And yes, they're jerks.

I also understand that you speak in generalizations more as a style thing than anything else, and for a lot of the categories I fall into for which you do not share the same views (I am, at heart, a big hippie, I support the smoking ban in bars even as a smoker, and I'm an ex-vegetarian) I don't speak up, because it's not a necessary clash of interstests. S'allllllll good. The reason I did this time is because your phrasing seemed to indicate a lifestyle of which I am a part, instead of individuals acting poorly.

Date: 2005-05-15 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsarina.livejournal.com
I was very hesistant to name names in the post for fear of causing LJ drama for my friend, which was probably part of the problem. I've been ranting about it under my breath for days on end.

Someone get me my cane and my pills. I'm getting old. I should just sit on the porch and shake my fist at the kids. :P

Date: 2005-05-15 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladypeculiar.livejournal.com
Heee. Cut your hair! Get a job!

Date: 2005-05-16 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsarina.livejournal.com
Those meddling kids! Get off my lawn!

Date: 2005-05-14 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsarina.livejournal.com
View my comments in light of the way I rant about California-tanned-vegan-pseudo-hippies. I have no problem whatsoever with the lifestyle. My problem is with people.

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