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[threeplusfire]

Some of you will say you know this. But this goes further than just knowing. it's not just about saying "Oh, I know this!". It's about DOING. It's about lifestyle. It's about every day words and actions. It's about changing the world we live in, one word at a time, one action at a time. Over and over and over again, until it sticks.

http://meallanmouse.livejournal.com/1043361.html

Yes. For heaven's sake, live what you talk.

Comments

[fearsclave.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I'm still having a hard time with you equating your delicate offended sensibilities and people being mean to you in the schoolyard and the teachers not understanding your suffering with being raped. And then managing to turn the comments in this thread into a discussion of your special pain, general heroism, and how wonderful you are. But you probably wouldn't be able to hear me over the sound of your being so awesome.

It's a pity, really. Men with your overinflated sense of entitlement and self-importance are why essays like the one tsarina linked to get written. So in a sense you may be right, although not in the way you think; it really is all about you.

[fearsclave.livejournal.com]

In my jurisdiction, that kick to the crotch would likely constitute sexual assault. And if it really caused you that much trauma, I'd suggest that you retain counsel. With a contingency fee arrangement, you'd only have to cover costs if you lost, and you'd get to parade your suffering before an sympathetic jury and otherwise be the center of attention of a whole lot of people for the entire trial. I'm sure you'd find it very gratifying. You might even win an award for damages.

On the other hand, if you endured the pain and humiliation, eventually got over it, learned from it, and used the healing process to emerge a stronger, better person from the experience, you might not feel the need to flaunt it before strangers in order to gain "recognition".

As for recognition itself, I'd point out to you that it's earned, not something that you deserve merely for not being depravedly indifferent. Do something that makes a sufficient impression on others, and you'll get recognition in proportion to your deed; for example, equating offence at your sense of male pride with being raped? That's certainly earned my recognition, although the qualities I'm recognizing really don't seem to be to your liking.

[tsarina.livejournal.com]

delchi It's a great idea, and I also believe in it, however this message has to be sent in a less anti-male wrapper. Seriously, as a male after reading this I feel dirty for being male - and that's just as wrong as the wrongs that are described against women.


kathrynt When I was eleven, I was assaulted by a group of fifteen-year-olds. .....
You, on the other hand, feel bad because of something you read on the Internet.
You wanna re-think that claim that the latter is just as bad as the former?


Here is where I think some of the disconnect happened. The comments made were not trying to say you didn't know what it was like to be assaulted. A comment was made that expressed disbelief that you were comparing your feelings on reading the post to the harassment or assault of women described in said post, by quoting the relevant line of your comment even.

[lizkayl.livejournal.com]

Agreed.

[nimbrethil.livejournal.com]

Sweetums, NOBODY is twisting anything you said.

"Seriously, as a male after reading this I feel dirty for being male - and that's just as wrong as the wrongs that are described against women."

Those? Were YOUR words, quoted exactly as you typed them. You equated being made to feel bad for being male because of something you read, with all the abuses women are put through.

Whatever you've said after the fact does NOT change that the quoted portion is the FIRST thing that you said, wherein you DID equate injured male pride with literal abuse, and THAT is what people took issue with. I agree that all the nonsense you've spewed after the fact is YOU doing the twisting in an attempt to divert people's attention form your initial words.

[delchi.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry, but at this point this conversation is long since over and I refuse to enable you any longer. I have removed all of my comments and consider this thread closed.

Any further communication from you will be considered harassment, and will be treated as such.

[nimbrethil.livejournal.com]

*shrug* It doesn't matter when the conversation took place, your words still made you look like an asshat. Nice of you to remove your comments, though, rather than stand by them. That's the mark of someone who cannot own up to the fact that it's their own words have caused the problem, rather than all the equivocating you've done to try to make it seem like the problem was EVERYBODY else twisting or misinterpreting.

[tsarina.livejournal.com]

Who are you and why are you trying to stir up a months old thread in my livejournal?

[nimbrethil.livejournal.com]

I was linked to it last night, and given recent events, it seemed to be just as relevant tonight as months ago. I hold to my opinion that fearsclave had it right, and that delchi here has masterfully manipulated EVERYONE in this thread into forgetting that he damned himself with HIS OWN WORDS. There was no misunderstanding, just him backtracking from his own easy-to-comprehend statement, and doing it so well that everyone suddenly jumped to his defense, despite his words being indefensible.

[tsarina.livejournal.com]

Who linked to this and why?

I don't normally have a problem with strangers visiting this virtual living room in a public post, but this is months old. It's not serving any relevant purpose to argue with Delchi at this point, unless your point was to cause me grief.