threeplusfire | (no subject)

I've always wondered why we are encouraged to celebrate Mexico's independence day, but not the Texas independence day. During my years at the university I remember the annual party sponsored by the YTC (Young Texas Conservatives) as no one else would do it. It often earned the wrath of Mexican American student groups, who railed about the racism, the suffering caused by the Texans who fought against the Mexican government. As if their quest for independence was less pure than the quest by the Mexicans against the Spanish government. I just never understood the business and frankly it irritates me. No movement has ever been pure, except perhaps for Joan of Arc. I think we should acknowledge the mistakes and faults in our histories, but move on and celebrate the idealist goals, try to carry that spirit on and improve. Is that too much to ask? Crikey.

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i think in order to celebrate independence you have to be independent.

unlike Texas, Mexico is still a sovereign country (although Texas should be one too). but since the south lost the war, Texas was taken by military occupation and folded into the Union when the Republic was engineered into bankruptcy (the union stayed afloat by printing money, the south didn't have that luxury)

if the Republic of Texas provisional government is ever successful at getting the occupation nullified by US courts (about as likely as spontaneous world peace) i bet the new "independence day" would be whatever day the judge rules Texas was taken illegally.

I'm sorry, but I never heard of Texas' decision to join the union having anything to do with the civil war and military occupation.
The nation became a state in 1845.
The civil war did not begin until almost 16 years later in 1861.
Perhaps you're thinking of the reason why Texas was a none - issue in the civil war. Our harbors were completely blockaded for almost the entire duration, rendering us pretty useless during most of the fighting.
And the loophole that would allow Texas to become it's own state again was nullified by the state congress a few years back, after those succession crazies were chased up into the mountains and shot.
And I see your point but I still beleive in celebrating Texas Independance day. Our state has a history richer than any other. I'm proud to celebrate any part of that history.

i was under the impression that the move to statehood was never properly ratified pre-civil war, and thus Texas became a part of the Union when the Confederacy was occupiied by the north afterward. my mistake.

i didn't mean to say that Texans shouldn't know or be proud of their history, just that 'Independence Day' usually implies national sovereignty, which our state unfortunately no longer has.

I'm not so sure about the ratification. I would think they could get something like that taken care of in 16 years and had always thought they had, but who knows. Beuracracy *shrugs*
Well, the way I feel about it. We're still a singular entity in many ways. Culturaly and the like. Maybe 'unique' is a better word. But independance day works for me.

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